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I do not speak dutch but may you English or German.

I will write in German. please ask me for Translation if you do not understand German but like to help!

Ich habe grad meine Fahrkarte zur Defqon.1 gekauft.

Da steht:

Het e-ticket is alleen geldig als het is afgedrukt n kleur of in zwart-wit op blanco papier, in A4 formaat (portret) Het kan in geen geval worden scherm enz.) aangeboden op een andere drager elektronisch, E-tickets die slecht zijn afgedrukt. die beschadigd, zichtbaar zijn, worden onleesbaar of slechts gedeeltelijk geweigerd en als ongeldig beschouwd van dit vervoerbewijs is verboden, tenzij u handelt buiten de uitoefening van een beroep of bedrijf (Door)verkoop

Bedeutet das nun ich KANN das Ticket auf meinem IPAD zeigen oder heist das, Holland ist genauso Technik und Umweltfeindlich wie auch so viele und man wird zum lästigen eigentlich nicht nötigen Ausdruckwahn GEZWUNGEN?

Dann das ebenso leidige Problem das es in die Köpfe der meisten Bürokraten nicht rein will, das es auch Menschen gibt die tatsächlich REISEN statt immer wieder zu Ihrem Reiseausgangspunkt zurückzukehren:

Das ist mein Reiseplan:

(kommend von Brüssel)

9:40 Roosendaal Richtung Lelystad 4b IC
11:31 Amsterdam Centraal 10a
Transfers (9 min)
11:40 Amsterdam Centraal Richtung Zwolle 11b Sprinter
12:46 Dronten - dann Shutle

Für den hab ich das Ticket - sollt also kein Problem sein, aber wie sieht es mit dem Rückweg aus, denn da will ich NICHT nach Dronten zurück, sondern nach Den Haag!

Kann ich das Ticket zumindest für einen Teil benutzen?

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Dann interessiert mich noch, ob vielleicht irgendwer plant am Mo 22.06. Walibi (ab 10 Uhr) zu besuchen und bereit wäre die Tickets mit mir zusammen zu kaufen um Geld zu sparen:

Gate 32,50
Online: 29,95
mit 4 Leuten 27,50
5 Leute 27,20
10-19 Leute 26,50
ab 20 Leute 24,50

Auch Tipps wie ich "Mittäter" sonstwo finden kann sind willkommen (ausser Anschlag am schwarzen Brett bei der Defqon1 - klar mach ich, wenn möglich)

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und als letztes: (poste ich auch im OV Tread)

Ich suche jemanden, der am 3.9. zwischen 8:26 und 10:30 in Schiphol am Flughafen ist und meine Anonym OV - Card mit 28,35 Guthaben übernehmen kann um die 2,50 € Strafgebühr zu umgehen zudem ich auch nur ein DIBA Konto habe zudem ich keinen Zugang mehr habe und Rabo Tagesgeldkonten worauf man vermutlich sich ebenfalls nicht auszahlen lassen kann...
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Beste antwoord door Thijs2 1 mei 2015, 14:19

Dear Struffel, welcome to our forum. I will answer your questions in English, I hope you don't mind.
First, you will have to print your ticket, as the instructions with your ticket suggest.. You cannot show it on your ipad.
I understand you have a return ticket Roosendaal-Dronten? When you go back from Dronten to Den Haag you won't need an additional ticket because you are allowed to travel over Den Haag with a ticket Dronten-Roosendaal.
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Dear Struffel, welcome to our forum. I will answer your questions in English, I hope you don't mind.
First, you will have to print your ticket, as the instructions with your ticket suggest.. You cannot show it on your ipad.
I understand you have a return ticket Roosendaal-Dronten? When you go back from Dronten to Den Haag you won't need an additional ticket because you are allowed to travel over Den Haag with a ticket Dronten-Roosendaal.
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If you have bought a single ticket (Einfache Fahrt), your ticket is of course only valid for one trip: from Roosendaal to Dronten. If you have bought a return ticket (Hin- und Rückfahrt) you are allowed to travel back.
In the Netherlands, train tickets are valid on any train on any time, as long as you are travelling in the direction of the destionation of your ticket. So as Thijs NS says, you are allowed to leave the train at Den Haag, while having paid unto Roosendaal.

Furthermore, the time and type of train do not matter; you may take any train with two exceptions: you cannot travel with Thalys (reservation required) and when you travel with Intercity Direct between Rotterdam and Schiphol Airport, a supplement of € 2,30 is required.
Ah COOL. I made me Screenshoot of the answer to show to the Conducter if he makes a Problem. YES it says Meerdaags Retour on the Ticket!

So it does not make then sense for me to buy http://m.spoordeelwinkel.nl/product/walibi for to get a Discount to Walibi as I HAVE the Train Ticket already - I just been lucky enough to choose the right advertising for the 2 that are offered for Buiddinghuizen (Dronten is just the other Side)

If I see that right I just need to buy an extra Ticket for the Bus from Walibi to Harderwijk as the Defqon.1 Shuttle I guess have stopped operation when I exit Walibi as Comping will close I think at 2 pm (I hope I can leave my Luggage at Walibi Guest Relations) or is the Bus included in the Train Ticket?

With the todays news from you I need to make now new Calculations about the Question to use Single OV-Cards or an Anonymus OV-Card

Here are my other Travel needs in Netherlands partly including the prices for annonymus OV-Card - may you can include the individual Prices for Annonymus Single Use OV-Cards and where missing also for Annonymus OV Card?

Is there a Shuttle from Walibi to Harderwijk or must 1 walk 56 min and then use

Bus 147 ab Bremerbergweg, Biddinghuizen OV IJsselmond 18:10/18:40 an Harderwijk

Additional Travel needs:

20:32 Tram 2 (direction Kraayenstein) (1,13)
20:36 an Brouwersgracht, Den Haag

(1,68)
09:22 Tram 4 (direction Zoetermeer Javalaan) ab Brouwersgracht
09:24 an Tram stop Spui, Den Haag - in Fahrtrichtung, links, 3 Min
09:30 Tram 15 (direction Nootdorp) ab Bus-/tram stop Centrum
09:41 an Laan van s Gravenmade (P+R Hoornwijck)

3,08 € Bus von Drievelet to Duinrell

2,47 € Duinrell - Den Haag Central

(then I have a Ticket to Rock Werchter where I'm not sure it is valid for Travel as I made the mistake to buy it at SNCB including Railplus Discount, but the decided to not buy an Railplus Card - where or how can I proof that and how much too pay the price difference if it is valid?)

11:21 Bushalte Busstation, Leeuwarden
11:22 Bus 51 (richting Dokkum) 2,17 € OV-Card ❗️2 € SINGLE USE❗️
11:38 an Bushalte Kleine Wielen

10:43 Bus 20 (richting Leeuwarden) ab Bushalte Kleine Wielen 2,04 €
10:55 an Beursplein, Leeuwarden

17:03 Intercity (richting Den Haag Centraal) 4 24,90 € mit OV-Vard
19:26 Schiphol (19:20 Station Amsterdam Zuid)
Bei dieser Verbindung bringt die OV-Card also einen VORTEIL von 4,90 € einfach durch NICHT AUSSCHECKEN!
Last Thing: I forgot: PLEASE can someone EXPLAIN me why E-Tickets can NOT been shown electronical like that Name made it seem...?
Last Thing: I forgot: PLEASE can someone EXPLAIN me why E-Tickets can NOT been shown electronical like that Name made it seem...?

This is a decision of the management of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen (NS)... .
So not any Technical Reason?

That makes the WHY bigger!

I do jot understand this world that makes so many things more complicate as necessary!
I do not own an old Fashion Printer - I bought my IPAD to AVOID those Machines...
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Hi Struffel, here are some thoughts:

- In The Netherlands, bus trips never are included in regular return train tickets. So none of the buses to/from Walibi are included, but if you travel with an OV chipcard, it won't be expensive.

- A regular fixed route bus (line 247) runs between the bus stop of Walibi and the station of Harderwijk every 30 minutes. The bus leaves Walibi at 10 and 40 minutes pas the hour, with the last one leaving 17:40u.

- If you want to plan travels by public transport in The Netherlands yourself, I suggest you take a took at www.9292.nl (website available in both Niederlandisch and English). That website helps planning a trip from anywhere to anywhere, also knows interesting places (like Duinrell, Walibi, hospitals, shopping centers etc), and the website gives pretty accurate price information (click on 'show discouts and details' below the given price).

- The question about the SNCF ticket to Rock Werchter is a difficult one for me, but these things I know:
You probably have bought a special Rock Werchter action ticket (special price). And Railplus only is valid on full tariff international train travel. So I suppose even if you marked something like 'include Railplus discount', the price of your train ticket did not change compared to not using Railplus (as the price is already a discount). But as said, I'm not a specialist.

- It is theoretically possible to not check out with your OV chipcard. But after several times doing this (might be 5 times), your card will be blocked, as you commit fraud... so I suppose you'd better always check out...
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And about the eticket on smartphone: yes, we are a bit back in The Netherlands. We do not have the German handy ticket system yet.
As train crew has to check an eticket on 9 different properties of validity, and those are barely or not visible on screens, you still have to print you ticket...
keuzereiziger Thank you very much.

All my price planing I made with http://www.9292.nl/

That Page did Display for Walibi only the Bus from Bremerbergweg. I will try again, maybe now it is different as now Walibi is in Operation.

I know that thing with 5 times not checking out but it does not border me because I will only ONCE not check out and do not need the OV Card after September 3 anymore and I believe also that for a small Country like Netherlands a Limitation of 20 € for 1 Travel is Justice.

Rock Werchter: Don't mind, that did not have something to do with my NL Ticket. Rock Werchter Special alows FREE Travel in Belgium. For that Reason I have Choose Free in Belgium and Railplus. I just need to pay the 25 % and the Difference in Price for Roosendaal to first Station in Belgium.

What are the 9 different properties of validity? Actually on a IPAD I can see MORE CLEARLY as on a Page of Paper because a Paper Page does not have Adjustable BACKLIGHT and a Paper Page I can not ZOOM IN, what I CAN with my IPAD - so if it is going about anti Fraud the Rule about showing Tickets must be the OPPOSITE!...
Can I ask at HTM Service Punkt in Den Haag to Check my Ticket and maybe pay 10,20 € Upcharge if Valid and if not buy a new one for 19,60?
I think on 9292 you always need to klick on "Regional" to see the Price with Single use Card
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About the eticket on iPad: I'm not a specialist, I only know NS is not willing to accept e-tickets show on electronical devices...

And about the price difference: the HTM service center has really nothing to do with train tickets (PT companies do not really work together here). So I'm afraid you will have to buy a new ticket...
The Netherlands is not *that* small, your fare price may in fact be higher than €20.

I must say due to my incapability to speak or understand German, I haven't the slightest clue what your initial question was about, but from the answers given so far, I take it you were planned on going to Walibi. On http://bit.ly/1Afl6jj they're currently selling a combi-ticket for Walibi: this includes a train ticket from any station to Harderwijk and back, a bus ticket from Harderwijk to Walibi and back, and entrance to the theme park, all for €40. This is probably the best deal if you don't live near Walibi. Keep in mind that if you travel from Germany, you still need a ticket from your town in Germany to the first station you'll pass in the Netherlands.

To plan your trip on 9292.nl/en I advise you to adjust the journey date to the date you actually travel. Alternatively, you can use Google Maps to plan international public transport trips. However, 9292.nl/en knows more details further ahead, i.e. summer schedules.